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Title: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on July 24, 2018, 03:54:16 PM
Hi all,
Lately I've been interested in learning how to can my Texas Chili in one pint jars.
My pressure canner holds eight 1/2 quart (one pint) canning jars, so totally one gallon of chili or chili beans per batch.

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This is the spicy beans, ready to heat-and-eat.
It goes well with the salsa I made by fermenting peppers in brine.

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Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on July 24, 2018, 11:15:13 PM
This will become one of my favorite forum parts.
Ok I will contribute a little of my stuff.
first photo pickeled peppers
second photo hot pepper sauce cold sambal
third photo pickeled cucumbers  ( sweet sour pickles )
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on July 25, 2018, 06:04:47 AM
Nice K3!

Here is a picture of my pickle collection so far.
Only the jalapeno peppers are pickled in vinegar, the others are pickled in brine.
I use the brine recipe:
100 grams of water plus 4 grams of pickling or canning salt.

My veggie ferments are usually for about 4 days (the room temperature is always warm here), then stored in the refrigerator.

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Its not easy to walk by the fridge without grabbing a cold, crisp pickle  :)
Having the shallots and onions ready to use sure makes cooking more fun.
And jalapenos from our little garden is always a welcomed treat.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on July 25, 2018, 06:32:15 AM
It may seem a bit strange to weigh the water instead of measuring it but it works well for me.
I pack the jars with the vegetables and add water until the jar is full.
Then put a bowl on the scale and tare (or "zero") the scale. Then pour all the water from the jar into the bowl.
I usually get a weight of something like, for example, 132 grams.
So...
100g water divided by 4g salt = 25
132g water divided by 25 = 5.28 grams of salt needed.
and 250 g water (divided by 25) needs 10 grams of salt.

Pickling or canning salt is better than regular table salt because it does not have iodine or anti-caking agents which can change the vegetable's color and make the brine cloudy.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on July 25, 2018, 10:09:54 PM
Whaaw your collection is great.
I like the garlick   :)
Yep your way to calculate the salt water amount is perfectly easy.
For salt , I never use normal salt,just like you.

Our own grown beetroot is also very nice to do , they are cooked as is with the peels on them ,after that peeled and slized and put into sterilized pots ,filled  with cooked  vinigar /water sugar solution and a litlle onion ,  after that put into a pan with hot water for 30 minits on 80 dgrs celsius to sterilize, you can store them for a very long time.
If some one wants the exact amounts I will post it.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on August 12, 2018, 01:33:43 PM
We made soms new pickles  and  peppers.
Below photo you see some of the herbs like dill we used.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on September 22, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
Not only distilling has my interrest but also prepairing and canning veggies,BUT I'M lucky to have acces to a little garden.
Right now I have more peppers than I need so it is nice to give some to friends.
See all the different kinds of peppers some are so hot  8) :P
And pumpkins are great this year also,they will be used for pumpkin day for the school kids and believe me they like pumpkin soup.

Someone elso gardening ?
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on September 22, 2018, 07:07:47 PM
Wonderful!

I just now ate the last of the pickled veggies so yesterday we started a new batch.

We do have a small container garden. It produces mostly weeds.
The few good vegetables that survive are feasted on by a great variety of insects.

We don't get much for the effort  :(
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on September 22, 2018, 07:21:24 PM
If you want some nice flowers on you balcony ,and at the same time veggies I would put some runner beans in a pot they grow easy produce a lot and have nice red or white flowers depending on the kind.
When I had a balcony I tried this and you will be suprised how much they bring.
Pot size 30 cm diam wil do.
They are easy to put on salt it was done here in the past by almost everyone with a little garden.

Insects well ,a little soap,a little spiritus in your case heads ,a little amount tobacco , just a few drops from all to a 1 ltr  bottle and it will kill almost all nasties after you spray them.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 12, 2018, 02:28:34 PM
Make  2  out of one  :)

Quinces,I still have quinces  eaux de vie and wanted to infuse some with peels again as it is wonderfull.
At the same time I wanted to make quinces jam so I combined the 2
If you use the peels do not forget to clean the skin carfully to avoid bitterness.
The fruit flesh for the jam is cookes and passd true a sieve,and cooked again with sugar and gelatine.
O and the beans are our own  :P
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 14, 2018, 11:28:04 PM
And here we are again,we make this recepy for years and years and it is more known by older people as the young ones just like pizza and french fries ,or a hamburger  hotdog and so on.

This was made with our own grown beetroot,the ugly basterds are cooked as they are with skin on it for 45 minutes and after cooling a bit the skin was removed than you slice them with a device we called a mandoline slicer.
Than overnicht soaked into vinigar and a little spices,to be precise 1 liter vinigar and 150 gram sugar,or as much to cover the sliced beetroots.
The next day you fill the jars and put them in a pan with water lids tighten and bring to the boil they should be kept  near cooking point for 30 miniutes.
They will be ok for several years.
Ok you eat them just as they are heat them a little as part of a normal meal.
Or you can make a potato salad with sour herring and beetroot and eat it cold , in the summer this is a lovely refreshing meal.
Here some pictures.



Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 14, 2018, 11:29:40 PM
And the last ones.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on October 15, 2018, 06:19:36 AM
I hope that someday Kettle3 and I can meet in China.
I'd take him to the local vegetable market (where they sell basically Everything) and let him ask:
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, but it is sweet.
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, but it is bitter.
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, but it is sour.
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, and it is just too ugly to taste   ;D
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 20, 2018, 10:03:41 PM
I hope that someday Kettle3 and I can meet in China.
I'd take him to the local vegetable market (where they sell basically Everything) and let him ask:
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, but it is sweet.
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, but it is bitter.
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, but it is sour.
"What is that?" And I'd say, Don't know the name, and it is just too ugly to taste   ;D

IF I ever fly again it would be great to go to China,BUT not for China only but to meet you and Tan.
I think it will not happen but you know I say not never , but not ,as my life was full of supprises so you never know.

I could not wish for a better guide there than you  :)
And you know what I would bring you something  and you say what is that  and I say I know but you doint .....but it is  Umami as you did not mention that one  ;)

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on October 21, 2018, 01:21:51 PM
Welcome to China!
You and anyone else from the forum  :)

China Customs will probably not let you bring in Pickled Vegetables (unless they are in a can and a reasonable quantity - not sure how much is reasonable).

BOOZE IS OK! But it should appear as factory sealed and I think the limit is 2 liters per traveler. That's common on almost all international flights.

Fresh vegetables though, that's a big No-No everywhere.

I NEVER EVER get in the security queue behind an old Chinese lady. She ALWAYS tries to smuggle an assortment of food through security.

I have concluded that airport security is no longer looking for drugs. They are looking for old Chinese ladies with radishes taped to her hips  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 23, 2018, 02:11:02 AM
The last peppers we process this year together with leeks, garlic, onion, zucchini, peanut oil, soy sauce.
We will give away the rest of the peppers to colleagues and friends,as it is simply to much our garden has produced this year.
After preparation, the jars are heated in a pan with water for another 30 minutes at boiling point.
Here is another picture
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on October 24, 2018, 06:31:19 AM
Excellent as always, K3.

That makes me want to get the pressure cooker out and process 6 quarts (liters) of jars.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on February 19, 2019, 11:29:17 AM
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A few pickled eggs. They don't last very long around here!

A #10 can of jalapeno peppers. Oh boy. That's a nice score for me.

An active vegetable ferment going. Onions, cucumbers, mild peppers and garlic.
I lost the cup that fits on top of the glass fermenter. It has a water lock in the rim at the top.
These are easy to find here and always seem to be sold with cheap alcohol inside.
The jug is more valuable than the booze.

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Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on February 19, 2019, 09:45:11 PM
Lots of goodys,it is alway fine to see a jug full with colorfull vegies.
In a couple of months spring is there so now it istime to make plans for all we want to grow.
Pickeld eggs are great ,sometimes I put some in the smoke oven jummy.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on July 29, 2019, 05:55:17 PM
The first vegetable pickling this year.
cauliflower on sweet and sour, with turmeric, cumin seeds, garlic ,bay leaf, chilli, vinegar sugar and water.
Now we have to wait a few months.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on August 05, 2019, 02:48:14 PM
Time to put the first pickles into vinigar solution.
Just as info 0,8% acid is safe to pickle and will kill all nasties ,normal vinigar has about 4 to 5 %  acid depending on the country you live so check if you are not sure.

So in my case I used 1 liter vinigar and 0,9 litre water and 100 gramm sugar to make the pickle solution,and 2 spoons mixed picle herbs,and scaled up for 6 ltrs
Now you say than you  have 2% OR 2,5% acid but there is fluid from the pickles itself also ,so you end up just above 1% acid.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on August 06, 2019, 08:33:51 AM
Just wonderful!
Though I prefer a fermented pickle (with a bit of dill weed), these do look great.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on August 06, 2019, 11:27:28 AM
Today i can say dille is in there,fresh from the garden. :)
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on August 07, 2019, 08:04:00 PM
This time something for your healt.
marigold ointment ,it is good for all kind of skin problems,little infections,and insect bites.
This are the ones see photo , and a nice label added after cooling down.
Flowers have to dry first ,than heated in jojoba oil or another neutral oil,after filtering heat up again and add some bee wax and you are ready to go.
Heating should be done over a pan with  minor boiling water ,and not on direct heat.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 17, 2019, 03:59:23 PM
Time to make HOT Sauce with the last peppers we harvested , not all became red but that is no problem.

Nice to add some extra greens like leeks onion and garlic.
We will cann some whole ones too as follows
1 liter water 100 ml vinigar 5%  2 table spoons salt 1 table spoon sugar and some garlic,scale up if needed.
Bring to the boil ,fill jars with peppers and add the liquid,after that 30 minits in a pan with water  at 90 dgrs  so near boiling point.
They will be good for years,howevere they never last that long  :) till next summer is ok.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 02, 2019, 10:10:06 PM
Today we made Sauerkraut.
In total 11 kg.
To make a good ferment you need to add between 10 and 15 gram of salt for each kg cabbage ,and 1 carrot.

Further we added juniper berry,dill,pepper, fennelseed and caraway seed
Keep all under fluid ,1 week at room temperature and 4 to 6 weeks in a colder place,this times are not critical at all.
Here some photo's
We have grown our own gabbages no poison.
See the great slicer hand made and about 80 years old.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on November 06, 2019, 04:36:16 AM
I just love homemade sauerkraut.
The recipe we use is 2% salt. So 1000 grams of cabbage plus 20 grams of salt.
Slice, rinse and dry the cabbage, add the salt, and toss around and squeeze until the water comes out of the cabbage.
Cover and allow to ferment a week or two.

Sometimes I'll add a hot pepper for the extra kick.

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No water was added but a plastic bag full of water was put on top to keep the sauerkraut under the brine.

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After 2 weeks it goes into the refrigerator.
And then it is time to start again  :)
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 06, 2019, 01:54:42 PM
Nice Shifu ,your sauerkraut looks great. :P

The amount of salt is in almost all recepy's different BUT never under 10gr/kg we added no water ,the fluid is pure nature  ;D
Further there are many ways people make it,I think almost all will work,golden rule work clean.
What I do is the first week,every day force a stick from top to bottom of the jar on at least 4 places swirl only the stick around a little,this helps to release gasses and avoid bitternes,this is done in Germany and balkan countrys so it must be tried and proven.
Some people keep it for a year easy,and it is still good.

Ok you freeze it,in that case the sauerness will not change anymore.
When you keep it in jars or a big sauerkraut barrel after a week or two .....it goes on fermenting slowly and will make more acid,but limited.

In my country they used to have natural sauerkraut and a spiced version,the last one is hard to get,as younger people hate to bite on a pepper corn,so the complaining people won this battle  >:(  :'(
But now we have our own. :P :)



Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ShiFu on November 08, 2019, 05:50:47 PM
Yes, of course I agree... the local folks have their own way of doing things.

10g salt/Kg veggies is a minimum. But 20g is the recognized "safe".
For a leafy cabbage like Chinese Cabbage to convert to good sauerkraut I would hope 20g salt per Kg veggie to be the normal.

But I could easily be wrong.
And to err on the side of caution I use 20 grams of salt for each 1000 grams of cabbage.
----I know 2% is Safe----

If in doubt, use 2%.
1Kg (1000 grams) vegetables PLUS 2% salt.

1000 grams cabbage (or other vegetable) + 20 grams salt. That's the Minimum salt to use.

10 grams salt per Kg is threading the needle from safe to unsafe.
I suspect the difference is if the vegetables are very dry, dry, moderately wet, or very wet.

Salt is Very Cheap. Don't risk it. Don't use less than 2% salt.

As a quick rule, use 1 Kg of cabbage (or other vegetable) plus one rounded Table Spoon of salt.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 08, 2019, 06:53:25 PM
Ok I can add some extra to the liquid,no problem,next swirl I do that,just to be on the safe side  ::)

But is the acid not the preserving factor ,and not the salt ? As longer it stays the more acid will be made.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 09, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Quistion,
Will the salt convert into acid ?
In other words it will become more sauer, and less salty  ?
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 11, 2019, 11:34:38 PM
Today some cabbage, celeriac and carrot made on sweet and sour, always nice to have some winter stock.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 17, 2019, 04:32:49 PM
We inspected the sauerkraut,all looks ok.
We increased the amount of salt,as Shifu advised,up to 20 gr /kilo cabbage.

One week ago it tasted very salty,even before we added the extra salt,so we expected the salt taste would be stronger now , but the salty taste has faded away and sauerness increased ,the kraut is very crunchy.
We are on the way of succes  :P
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 18, 2019, 06:51:48 PM
As posted into the topic part  ****** TODAY*****  here the next step made before I can start smoking my pork.

I modifyed my home build smoke generator a little and did a test , see for your self  below picture of the smoke test, now a couple of days waiting before  smoking .

I use the way the guy in the link does,there are many ways,the next time I use a other methode were the pork will be 3 weeks into the brine. German spoken  BUT  It has Englisch sub
To be continued  :)

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on November 21, 2019, 10:59:19 PM
Today we smoked the pork, and some crackeled hard boiled eggs.
It was cold so I needed some soup and a nice hony shine to keep me warm.
Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on January 04, 2020, 02:13:42 PM
If my friends you want te learn a lot about other life stuff like canning and preserving see all the fine movie's on you tube from this lady.

She ........  plants veggies  and muschrooms, harvest,makes furniture , makes kimchi ,ferments veggies and fruits ,makes soy sauce ,cooks the most wonderfull dishes,and even distills fermented  horse milk, makes beer,further she plays guitar and sings.
Appart from that the movie's are of high quality and she looks fantastic.
Here have a look yourself,and visit her channel for more,look at a large screen highly recommended as nature is fantastic there.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 08, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Now it becomes colder,there is time for some meat smoking.
Curing for t days in a brine,near boiling point for abiut 50 minits anc smoked for about 8 hours.
This was cold smoked.
Also some salt and pepper was smoked.

Title: Re: Canning and Preserving
Post by: ketel3 on October 13, 2020, 01:33:06 PM
As I use 2 kind of smoke generators 1 passive  and 1 active there was no need to do hot smoking any longer with wood chunks that is very difficult to control , sometimes to hot and 5 minits later to cold,especialy with fish smoking that is a crime.
It is better to control with a electric hotplate,as you have your smoke from the generator already.
But in that case a regulator would be great.
So I turned the junkbox upside down and build one,here it is.